From robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk Mon Apr 7 12:59:38 2025 From: robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk (Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:59:38 +0000 Subject: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information Message-ID: Dear Antanas, et al. I have noticed a problems with the COD 1573685. This provides author information for the entry but no journal information. The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added. Best Regards Bob McMeeking -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grazulis at ibt.lt Mon Apr 7 14:08:35 2025 From: grazulis at ibt.lt (=?UTF-8?Q?Saulius_Gra=C5=BEulis?=) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 14:08:35 +0300 Subject: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2025-04-07 12:59, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI wrote: > > I have noticed a problems with the COD ?1573685. This provides author > information for the entry but no journal information. > > The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added. > Thanks for the note! We'll have a look and update the information. Sincerely yours, Saulius -- Dr. Saulius Gra?ulis Vilnius University, Life Science Center, Institute of Biotechnology Saul?tekio al. 7, LT-10257 Vilnius, Lietuva (Lithuania) phone (office): (+370-5)-2234353, mobile: (+370-684)-49802, (+370-614)-36366 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antanas.vaitkus90 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 14:20:18 2025 From: antanas.vaitkus90 at gmail.com (Antanas Vaitkus) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 14:20:18 +0300 Subject: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Robert, First of all, thank you for your report. Let me slightly expand on Saulius' response. Entries that are automatically deposited to the COD often lack the full bibliographic data upon the initial commit. While the DOI is usually known, other bibliographic data might be more difficult to determine automatically (e.g. services such as CrossRef may take up to a few months to update their bibliography related to a given DOI). Due to this we tend to record the DOI upon the initial commit and then come back and add the full bibliography in an automated fashion at a later date. The entry that you noticed is most likely just in the queue to be updated. It is very likely that you will stumble upon a few more entries like these, but they should be viewed more as "in progress" than as having issues. Sincerely Antanas On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 at 13:00, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI < robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk> wrote: > Dear Antanas, et al. > > > > I have noticed a problems with the COD 1573685. This provides author > information for the entry but no journal information. > > > > The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Bob McMeeking > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > Cod-bugs mailing list > Cod-bugs at lists.crystallography.net > http://lists.crystallography.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cod-bugs > -- Antanas Vaitkus, Vilnius University, Life Sciences Center, Institute of Biotechnology, room C521, Saul?tekio al. 7, LT-10257 Vilnius, Lithuania -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk Mon Apr 7 19:04:19 2025 From: robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk (Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 16:04:19 +0000 Subject: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Antanas & Saulius Thanks for the quick reply. I had noticed that full bibliographic information was not always for new entries. I realise that additional information (such as page numbers) may be added using, for instance, CrossRef is often added at a later state. What had confused me was there now appear to more entries where the title of the journal is not present. The ones I have noticed are from IUCr journals. I assume this information would usually be in the CIF file. Do you know whether there has been a change in the way the publisher handles these things now? Best Regards Bob From: Antanas Vaitkus Sent: 07 April 2025 12:20 To: McMeeking, Robert (STFC,DL,SC) Cc: cod-bugs at ibt.lt Subject: Re: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information Dear Robert, First of all, thank you for your report. Let me slightly expand on Saulius' response. Entries that are automatically deposited to the COD often lack the full bibliographic data upon the initial commit. While the DOI is usually known, other bibliographic data might be more difficult to determine automatically (e.g. services such as CrossRef may take up to a few months to update their bibliography related to a given DOI). Due to this we tend to record the DOI upon the initial commit and then come back and add the full bibliography in an automated fashion at a later date. The entry that you noticed is most likely just in the queue to be updated. It is very likely that you will stumble upon a few more entries like these, but they should be viewed more as "in progress" than as having issues. Sincerely Antanas On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 at 13:00, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI > wrote: Dear Antanas, et al. I have noticed a problems with the COD 1573685. This provides author information for the entry but no journal information. The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added. Best Regards Bob McMeeking -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Cod-bugs mailing list Cod-bugs at lists.crystallography.net http://lists.crystallography.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cod-bugs -- Antanas Vaitkus, Vilnius University, Life Sciences Center, Institute of Biotechnology, room C521, Saul?tekio al. 7, LT-10257 Vilnius, Lithuania -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk Wed Apr 9 17:58:47 2025 From: robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk (Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 14:58:47 +0000 Subject: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello again, Antanas & Saulius I have checked the problem entries via CrossRef and it looks like the updated bibliographic information is now in place. Are there corrections in the pipeline on the COD system? Is it possible that CrystalWorks has not picked up the corrections yet? Here is a link to the set of entries with journal title information: https://cds.dl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/rfm/crystalworks_trawl_new?8799_8892_9714 Best Regards Bob From: McMeeking, Robert (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 07 April 2025 17:04 To: 'Antanas Vaitkus' Cc: cod-bugs at ibt.lt Subject: RE: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information Hello Antanas & Saulius Thanks for the quick reply. I had noticed that full bibliographic information was not always for new entries. I realise that additional information (such as page numbers) may be added using, for instance, CrossRef is often added at a later state. What had confused me was there now appear to more entries where the title of the journal is not present. The ones I have noticed are from IUCr journals. I assume this information would usually be in the CIF file. Do you know whether there has been a change in the way the publisher handles these things now? Best Regards Bob From: Antanas Vaitkus > Sent: 07 April 2025 12:20 To: McMeeking, Robert (STFC,DL,SC) > Cc: cod-bugs at ibt.lt Subject: Re: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information Dear Robert, First of all, thank you for your report. Let me slightly expand on Saulius' response. Entries that are automatically deposited to the COD often lack the full bibliographic data upon the initial commit. While the DOI is usually known, other bibliographic data might be more difficult to determine automatically (e.g. services such as CrossRef may take up to a few months to update their bibliography related to a given DOI). Due to this we tend to record the DOI upon the initial commit and then come back and add the full bibliography in an automated fashion at a later date. The entry that you noticed is most likely just in the queue to be updated. It is very likely that you will stumble upon a few more entries like these, but they should be viewed more as "in progress" than as having issues. Sincerely Antanas On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 at 13:00, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI > wrote: Dear Antanas, et al. I have noticed a problems with the COD 1573685. This provides author information for the entry but no journal information. The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added. Best Regards Bob McMeeking -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Cod-bugs mailing list Cod-bugs at lists.crystallography.net http://lists.crystallography.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cod-bugs -- Antanas Vaitkus, Vilnius University, Life Sciences Center, Institute of Biotechnology, room C521, Saul?tekio al. 7, LT-10257 Vilnius, Lithuania -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: