[Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information

[Saulius Gražulis]

Hi, Robert,

thanks for your answer!

On 2025-07-03 14:00, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for the feedback. Getting my brain working again 
> after being on a long holiday was a bit of a struggle! I am, however, 
> now in a better position to streamline my processes at this and also.
>
Sounds great!
>
> I have checked a number of the entries on the COD site and they now 
> look fine.
>
Great, ACK.
>
> I assume you are happy to map the Article ID onto the Start Page where 
> this is appropriate. In the longer term perhaps “Article ID” might be 
> a new field?
>
AFAIK (maybe my colleagues will chime in and correct m,e if I am wrong), 
there is no official IUCr data item for the "Article ID". Publishers are 
not decided either – some (re)use first-page as the article ID (RSC), 
some ditch page numbers altogether and add the article identifier, 
sometimes without even specifying what properties it has (e.g. will it 
change for the new revisions of the paper).

For our purposes, the first page serves as a good unique synthetic key 
together with the other bibliographic info 
(Journal+year+volume+issue+first-page is (nearly) guaranteed to be 
unique, unless publishers do something totally crazy as having 
duplicated page numbers in the same issue...). Thus, using Article ID as 
the first page when there is no page is suitable for this purpose, and 
we do it so far like this. A machine readable indication that we have 
Article ID and not the page number is the NULL value in the `lastpage` 
SQL column :).

For article identification we can increasingly rely on DOI nowadays.

> The CrystalWorks link:
>
> https://cds.dl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/rfm/crystalworks_trawl_new?8799_8892_9714
>
> does not pick up the amended details as yet, but I am assuming it will 
> be become available after the next overnight upload to our server – if 
> not tomorrow quite soon. I will get back if there are any issues to 
> report.
>
Let's see how it updates!

Regards,
Saulius

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