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Hi Antanas & Saulius</div>
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I do appreciate that getting the full bibliography details is not the major COD priority, especially when a DOI link is available. But have you had any further thoughts on the entries linked to in my previous email?</div>
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I was thinking of making some more checks.</div>
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Best Regards</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 9, 2025 3:58:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Antanas Vaitkus' <antanas.vaitkus90@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'cod-bugs@ibt.lt' <cod-bugs@ibt.lt>; McMeeking, Robert (STFC,DL,SC) <robert.mcmeeking@stfc.ac.uk><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello again, Antanas & Saulius</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I have checked the problem entries via CrossRef and it looks like the updated bibliographic information is now in place.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Are there corrections in the pipeline on the COD system?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Is it possible that CrystalWorks has not picked up the corrections yet? Here is a link to the set of entries with journal title information:</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://cds.dl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/rfm/crystalworks_trawl_new?8799_8892_9714">https://cds.dl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/rfm/crystalworks_trawl_new?8799_8892_9714</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> McMeeking, Robert (STFC,DL,SC)
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<b>Sent:</b> 07 April 2025 17:04<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Antanas Vaitkus' <antanas.vaitkus90@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cod-bugs@ibt.lt<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello Antanas & Saulius</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for the quick reply.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I had noticed that full bibliographic information was not always for new entries. I realise that additional information (such as page numbers) may be added using, for instance, CrossRef is often added at
a later state.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">What had confused me was there now appear to more entries where the
<b>title</b> of the journal is not present. The ones I have noticed are from IUCr journals. I assume this information would usually be in the CIF file. Do you know whether there has been a change in the way the publisher handles these things now?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bob</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Antanas Vaitkus <<a href="mailto:antanas.vaitkus90@gmail.com">antanas.vaitkus90@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> 07 April 2025 12:20<br>
<b>To:</b> McMeeking, Robert (STFC,DL,SC) <<a href="mailto:robert.mcmeeking@stfc.ac.uk">robert.mcmeeking@stfc.ac.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cod-bugs@ibt.lt">cod-bugs@ibt.lt</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">First of all, thank you for your report. Let me slightly expand on Saulius' response.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Entries that are automatically deposited to the COD often lack the full bibliographic data</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">upon the initial commit. While the DOI is usually known, other bibliographic data might</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">be more difficult to determine automatically (e.g. services such as CrossRef may take</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">up to a few months to update their bibliography related to a given DOI). Due to this we</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">tend to record the DOI upon the initial commit and then come back and add the full</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">bibliography in an automated fashion at a later date. The entry that you noticed is</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Antanas</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 at 13:00, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI <<a href="mailto:robert.mcmeeking@stfc.ac.uk">robert.mcmeeking@stfc.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I have noticed a problems with the COD 1573685. This provides author information for the entry but no journal information.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Best Regards</p>
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