[Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information

[Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI]

Hi Antanas & Saulius

I do appreciate that getting the full bibliography details is not the major COD priority, especially when a DOI link is available. But have you had any further thoughts on the entries linked to in my previous email?

I was thinking of making some more checks.

Best Regards

Bob
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Subject: RE: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information


Hello again, Antanas & Saulius



I have checked the problem entries via CrossRef and  it looks like the updated bibliographic information is now in place.



Are there corrections in the pipeline on the COD system?



Is it possible that CrystalWorks has not picked up the corrections yet? Here is a link to the set of entries with journal title information:



https://cds.dl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/rfm/crystalworks_trawl_new?8799_8892_9714



Best Regards



Bob



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Sent: 07 April 2025 17:04
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Subject: RE: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information



Hello Antanas & Saulius



Thanks for the quick reply.



I had noticed that full bibliographic information was not always for new entries. I realise that additional information (such as page numbers) may be added using, for instance, CrossRef is often added at a later state.



What had confused me was there now appear to more entries where the title of the journal is not present. The ones I have noticed are from IUCr journals. I assume this information would usually be in the CIF file. Do you know whether there has been a change in the way the publisher handles these things now?



Best Regards



Bob











From: Antanas Vaitkus <antanas.vaitkus90 at gmail.com<mailto:antanas.vaitkus90 at gmail.com>>
Sent: 07 April 2025 12:20
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Subject: Re: [Cod-bugs] Missing Journal Information



Dear Robert,

First of all, thank you for your report. Let me slightly expand on Saulius' response.

Entries that are automatically deposited to the COD often lack the full bibliographic data

upon the initial commit. While the DOI is usually known, other bibliographic data might

be more difficult to determine automatically (e.g. services such as CrossRef may take

up to a few months to update their bibliography related to a given DOI). Due to this we

tend to record the DOI upon the initial commit and then come back and add the full

bibliography in an automated fashion at a later date. The entry that you noticed is

most likely just in the queue to be updated.

It is very likely that you will stumble upon a few more entries like these, but they should

be viewed more as "in progress" than as having issues.



Sincerely

Antanas



On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 at 13:00, Robert McMeeking - STFC UKRI <robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk<mailto:robert.mcmeeking at stfc.ac.uk>> wrote:

Dear Antanas, et al.



I have noticed a problems with the COD  1573685. This provides author information for the entry but no journal information.



The DOI is available. So I assume these details can now be added.



Best Regards



Bob McMeeking

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